All Thumbs are Not Created Equal
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Hey, I thumbed up a page and no one else even looked at it. What gives?
I have a post from a few months ago that only has a couple thumbs up, but it still brings in traffic. I also have a more recent one that has around ten thumbs up, and it’s not bringing in any traffic to speak of. Any idea what’s going on?
I’ve heard you can get a lot of traffic from StumbleUpon, but haven’t seen any of it. How does it work?
Do any of these questions sound familiar?
I think we’ve all wondered about this. Sometimes giving a page a thumb up seems to make a big difference. The page you discover and thumb up suddenly makes it to the Buzz and it seems like everyone is looking at it now.
Another page that seems just as likely to be popular doesn’t do anything after you thumb it up. What’s going on?
StumbleUpon’s Audience Score
StumbleUpon uses a number called Audience Score. It wasn’t that long ago that you could see your own audience score and see how you were doing. A new stumbler will likely have a low score. An experience stumbler could have a score over 1000.
It wasn’t until a friend, Allan Cockerill, told me how within a few minutes of my discovering one of his pages, he had a number of stumblers visit, that I realized once again, that I was hearing about something happen that I’d guessed at (the importance of the score), but never knew for sure.
I’ve talked before about being on the Top Stumbler’s list. It’s a popular list and something a lot people try to get on. But there is another type of Top Stumbler who, in my opinion, is more important. This is a stumbler with a high audience score.
On StumbleUpon, all thumbs are not created equal.
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I guess you could relate it to real life. Some people have weak thumbs and some are strong.
A thumbs up from a stumbler with a high audience score will put your page in front of a lot of people. That doesn’t mean that they will like it, but people with strong scores are more likely to be suggesting sites that others will like.
A thumbs up from a stumbler with a low score won’t put the page in front of many people. Even if ten people give it a thumbs up, if all of them have weak scores, the page still won’t pull in a lot of views.
One problem that “Stumble groups” have is that unless you are get some high scoring stumblers in the group, it takes a lot of people to make a post popular enough to pull much weight outside of the group.
So what makes for a high Audience Score?
No one knows for certain. The best explanation I’ve found came from Tim Nash on Venture Skills, back in September.
Our user lets call him Fred has an audience score of 10 he goes along and starts a new stumble at a site he has never visited it gets a couple of hundred visits and 3 thumbs up Fred gains a point to his audience score for thumbing something up +a further bonus because others liked his stumble so fred now has an audience score of 13 Fred is really impressed that so many visitors came to his site so he thumbed up another page, even with his increased score it didn’t do so well and only 2 people thumbed it up and 2 thumbed it down! His score is now 14 (increased for thumbing up – no bonus ) Fred tries a different domain it does well and 10 people thumb it up his score goes up to 25, Fred has realised stumbleupon can make him money so thumbs up his proxy site it gets a few visitors but 7 people thumb down the site and 2 marked it as spam. Fred audience score plummets (18 but has been marked by spam so temporarily has his score halved) so his score is now 9 poor Fred will have to work hard to regain his score.
I discussed this article more fully back in September.
So if the Audience Scores aren’t available anymore, how can you tell if someone has a high score?
You can always try to get someone particular to thumb up a blog post for you, and count how many visitors you get within a certain time frame afterwards, but I really wouldn’t recommend that approach. Many of the more active stumblers consider any request to thumb up a site as spam. You may or may not get reported for it, but you’re not likely to make many friends (or influence many people) that way.
This idea is only a theory, but if you do a search for a particular stumbler, you’ll probably see stars beside their name. StumbleUpon rates sites (including your SU pages) with up to five stars, five being the best sites. On the Help page, it says that the stars denote the quality of the site. Taking that to a logical conclusion, stars should denote the quality of a stumbler…ie, their Audience Score. In order to see the stars, make sure that you have “Highlight recommended search results” turned on from your toolbar and do a search on any major search engine.
I do need to offer one word of warning when using this method. Even if a stumbler has 4 or 5 stars, I would recommend checking to see that they have a decent number of reviews and friends.
A final note
Writing reviews doesn’t seem to affect StumbleUpon’s scoring system in any way that I’ve noticed. But, especially with the Recent Reviews page, one thing that writing a review has the potential to do is to get the page out in front of others who might not see it otherwise.
If you’re fairly new to StumbleUpon and have a few friends, then anytime a page is important to you, don’t just stumble it, write a review about it. Your friends might not stumble on your page, but there’s a decent chance they will see the review.
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Time December 2, 2007 at 5:46 am
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Comment from Colin King
Time December 2, 2007 at 10:57 am
Useful information, thanx. I am just starting to use SU. BTW, I dropped an ecard.
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Time December 2, 2007 at 5:19 pm
[IMG Avatar] Posted By: Teeg 10 hours ago Topic Type: News Story (Jump tohttp://www.sucomments.com) my network Category: Other Social Media I think we’ve all wondered about this. Sometimes giving a page a thumb up seems to make a big difference. The page you discover and thumb up suddenly makes it to the Buzz and it seems like everyone
Comment from Buzzing with Ange
Time December 2, 2007 at 7:26 pm
Curious… I just did a google search and came up with quite a few different stumblers reviews… and it seemed to make no difference as to how many reviews a stumbler had… some as many as 5 stars had only 30 reviews, and some with 3 or 4 stars, had in excess of 300 - 400 reviews…
Great information as always Te-ge!!
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Comment from Teeg
Time December 10, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Thanks for the ecard, Colin. Glad you found the information useful.
Comment from Teeg
Time December 16, 2007 at 8:29 am
Thanks Ange!
I agree Gary. Plus, the biggest bookmarking drawback to me, is that there’s not really a way to search your past reviews. As long as you don’t have too many, or have them well tagged, it probably works, but when you get several thousand, it’s almost impossible to find anything.
Alfred, I haven’t tried SU advertising yet. I don’t have any ads or other income producers on this blog yet, so hesitate to try it, although I may soon so that I can write about it. The questions at the top were actually paraphrased from some I’d seen on some of the blogging sites, and I’ve heard others ask similar questions. Glad you enjoyed the blog. Thanks for subscribing. ![]()
Comment from Gary R. Hess
Time December 17, 2007 at 3:27 am
Definitely use it like Digg, Sphinn, etc. The bookmarking thing is a bit too hard to achieve on SU.
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Comment from Alfred Saforo
Time January 14, 2008 at 1:58 am
Have you ever considerd SU advertising? I realised that i could get more traffic after i paid for an article to be advertised through the SU network, by doing this i was able to have my articles thumbed up by more people.After a while i drop of the advertising but the traffic still flows in. Paid advertising on SU is a good way to maintain a steady flow of SU traffic. So far i have had over 15000 hit from SU. Great blog. will subscribe and add you to my friends on stumble. Please do the same.
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Time January 26, 2008 at 5:49 am
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Comment from Nick
Time January 31, 2008 at 7:29 am
Great post though a bit difficult to find. Luckily I searched Google groups for StumbleUpon. I am relatively new to SU but noticed that a recent friend I added submitted a page from my blog. He has one star and I had crap traffic even though my other strong SU friends also thumbed it.
–Nick
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Time February 10, 2008 at 2:25 pm
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Time August 13, 2008 at 2:46 am
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